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John Rogers
1800-1867
Biographical Sketch
From Recollections Of Men Of Faith
Chapters IX, X, XI

CHAPTER IX.
JOHN ROGERS.
HIS BIRTH ̶̶̶ EARLY TRAINING, OR WANT OF
TRAINING ̶̶̶ CONVERSION TO CHRIST ̶̶̶ WITH REFLECTIONS.
I was born in Clarke Co., Ky., on the waters of the
Stoner, some six or eight miles from Winchester, on the 6th of December,
1800. My parents, Ezekial and Rebecca Rogers, were natives of Virginia. My
mother's maiden name was Williamson. She was raised in Prince Edward and
Charlotte counties, and from early life was a devoted member of the
Methodist Episcopal Church, of which communion she continued a member
until her death, at an advanced age. She was an immersed Methodist. My
father was also, at an early period of his life, a very devoted member and
class leader in the same church. I have heard my older brother say my
father felt it his duty to preach the gospel to sinners, but having a poor
education and high conceptions of the importance of the work and the
qualifications necessary for it, he shrank from the task, became careless
and skeptical, under the influence of the writings of Thomas Paine's
"Age of Reason," and kindred infidel works, and thus, in middle
life wholly abandoned all pretentions to Christianity. He was a man of
vigorous, physical constitution and a strong mind, and scrupulously honest
in his dealings. He was a very industrious and neat farmer for his time,
and but for the habit of drinking to excess might have secured for himself
and family a handsome living. As it was, when in 1810 he died, he left us
but little. In the fall of 1801, my father removed from Clarke county,
Ky., to Missouri, then Louisiana, and under the Spanish Government. He
settled within twenty miles of St. Louis, and about a mile from the
Missouri River, and purchased six hundred acres of excellent bottom and
uplands, upon which he soon had a very fine farm and was prospering in the
world. But becoming involved in difficulties with a certain Moses Kenney,
who went from Bourbon county, Ky., to that country, and suffering, as he
believed, serious private injuries from said Kenney and his colleagues, he
determined to leave Missouri, and in the fall of 1809, sold out and
returned to Kentucky and settled on the Brushy Fork of Hinkston, about
half way between Carlisle and Millersburg. Said Kenney left Missouri and
came to Kentucky the same fall, and when in the spring of 1810, my father
returned to Missouri with my oldest brother, Samuel, to close up his
business, Kenney followed him there and most cruelly murdered him by
scalding him in the face and eyes, and then beating him with a club. My
father survived but a few days. In the meantime, Kenney escaped to
Kentucky and, though there was a man present and witnessed the horrid
murder, yet said Kenney was never brought to justice, as he never could be
got back to the Territory where the deed was done. He subsequently married
and settled in Harrison county, Ky., and died of cholera in 1833.
I was next to the youngest of a family of eight
children, four boys and four girls. My religious opportunities, up to my
seventeenth or eighteenth year, were the poorest of the poor. I never
remember to have heard a sermon, or felt any interest in the subject of
Christianity, until I was some seventeen years old. About that time, in
1817, a great revival took place at Concord, under the labors of Elders
Reuben Dooley, James Hughes, Stone and others. My brother Samuel and his
wife, two of my sisters and a number of my acquaintances were the subjects
of that revival, and united with the church at Concord. My brother Samuel,
though he had been a remarkably wild and wicked man, soon commenced
preaching, to which he has devoted himself with great earnestness and
efficiency up to the present time [1856]. Perhaps few men in the State
have been instrumental in converting more persons than he. In 1816, my
brother indentured me to Henry and Moses Batterton, to learn the cabinet
business, in Millersburg, Ky. I was bound for near six years, till I
should be twenty-one. This prevented me from being often at their meetings
in 1817 and 1818, during the progress of the revival alluded to. Still,
occasionally I attended them, and witnessed the disorders of jerking,
dancing, swooning, etc. Yet it was palpable to a serious observer that,
connected with all these disorders, there was much of piety and deep
religious feeling. The spirit of prayer pervaded all hearts. Not only were
my religious opportunities, as I have stated, up to my seventeenth or
eighteenth year, the poorest of the poor, but my opportunities for mental
improvement--my educational advantages--were little better. I could read,
and write, and cipher to the rule of three. This was the sum of my
learning when I was put to my trade. I had, however, a great thirst for
education, and during my apprenticeship, which lasted nearly three years,
I occupied much of my leisure time in reading such books as were thrown n
my way. Dr. John H. Sanders had just located at Millersburg, as a
promising young physician, and, observing that I was fond of books,
encouraged me to read, and helped me to such books as he thought would be
useful to me. I have a vivid and grateful recollection of his kindness and
encouragement. He was upon the point of uniting with the Christian Church
about the time I united with it. But his mind took a turn, and he was not
associated with any church for many years after. He finally joined the
Baptist Church, and subsequently embraced the views of the Current
Reformation, and died among us, highly respected as a physician, a man and
a devoted Christian. I believe he died in Indianapolis, where his widow,
who is also a member with us, still lives [1857].
During my apprenticeship, though I was not a very bad
boy, I was forming some habits which might have proved fatal to my
welfare, both in time and eternity, had not my religious convictions
disposed me to abandon them. Card-playing was common in the family in
which I lived. I contracted the habit of playing for amusement, and was
beginning to risk a trifle by way of giving interest to the game. I was
also becoming fond of playing billiards
̶̶̶ a game very common about that
time, and to me very exciting and fascinating. I sometimes sat up at this
amusement till far beyond the turn of the night. I paid my way by making
maces for the table. At the time I learned this game, the table was kept
by Robert Batson who, at that time, was wild, pleasure-loving and rather
reckless. Subsequently, however, He became a respectable Baptist preacher
and, in the extensive divisions which occurred in the Baptist Church in
Kentucky in the years 1829, '30 and '31, he went with the friends of A.
Campbell, and into the union which was subsequently formed between the
friends of Stone and Campbell in 1832, he entered most heartily. He did
not, however, live long to enjoy the benefits or witness the triumphs of
that glorious union. In the first general sweep of that terrible scourge,
the Asiatic cholera, over Kentucky in 1833 he, with thousands upon
thousands, fell a victim to it. He died in Millersburg, in the prime of
his manhood, in the triumphs of the Christian's faith and hope. "
Sweet be thy slumbers."
Where these habits of gaming might have led me, but for
the favor of God which stopped me in my wild career and turned me about,
God only knows.
In 1818, Father Stone and others of our preachers
commenced preaching at Millersburg. The Baptists, Walter Warder and J.
Vardeman, and several Methodist preachers, also preached there regularly
and frequently. I heard all these, and in the fall of 1818, resolved to
seek religion, as the phrase was, and I was instructed. Alas ! how little-
I knew of the simple method of salvation, as set forth by Christ and his
apostles. A number joined the Baptist Church, under the preaching of
Walter Warder, who was doubtless a good man and a good preacher for the
times. But experiences they related gave me no light on the gospel method
of salvation. Indeed, in all the teachings I heard, everything was at
loose ends. I was exhorted to pray on, and look up to God for some
inexplicable nondescript, palpable, sensible manifestation by which I
should know my sins were forgiven. I shall never forget that Lord's day
evening, calm and beautiful, in the fall of 1818, while hearing a sermon
by a Methodist preacher, I fully resolved to turn to God and try to be a
Christian. The deep fountains of feeling within me were broken up and I
was all tenderness and tears. I retired to the woods alone and spent the
evening in weeping over my sins and trying to pray. Alas! my prayers
seemed to get no higher than my head. I returned to town and availed
myself of all the religious instruction I could get among Methodists,
Baptists, or any that came in my way. I tried to pray regularly twice a
day, and fancied sometimes I had made some proficiency in learning how to
perform that duty. I attended all the meetings for prayers and preaching,
and upon all occasions availed myself of the prayers of the preachers and
the people for my conversion. Stone, Warder, Vardeman, Hunt and various
others, for months together, received my hand in token of my desire to have
their prayers for my salvation. But still that electric shock, or
nondescript operation, by which I should know I was a new man know my sins
were forgiven-I received not. I went to a Baptist prayer-meeting, at old
Father Cress's (the
old house is still standing-1861), and after a number of prayers were
offered, the congregation joined in singing this beautiful and appropriate
hymn, at least appropriate to my condition:
"Sinner, Hear the Saviors call,
He now is passing by;
He has seen thy grievous thrall,
And hears thy mournful cry."
The hymn was all beautiful and appropriate, but the
last verse especially attracted my attention, and the truth it contained
afforded me much comfort. It reads thus:
"Raise thy downcast eyes and see
What throngs his throne surround.
These, tho' sinners once like thee,
Have full salvation found.
Yield not then to unbelief,
While he says there yet is room,
Tho' of sinners thou art chief,
Since Jesus calls thee, come."
I appropriated the truth of the song, and rejoiced in
the divine mercy; and as soon as the hymn was sung I said, " Let us
pray." We were all at once on our knees, and the death-like silence
that followed paralyzed me with fear, and every idea forsook me. I
rallied, however, and did the best I could. A daughter of old Father
Cress, who had been a schoolmate of mine, some time after the meeting,
joined the Baptist Church, and dated her conviction to that first public
prayer I ever made. A short time after this meeting I joined the Christian
Church, and was immersed by Father Stone, in Hinkston, in December, 1818.
I was about eighteen years old. But why did I-why do many others-seek
religion, or seek pardon, for months, without obtaining it, or a
satisfactory evidence of it? This is a question of immense practical
interest, and a scriptural answer to it, recognized by the different
religious parties, and acted upon, would introduce a new era in the
history of the modern church. I speak not hastily, nor by blind impulse. I
know what I say and whereof I affirm. I have examined this subject in the
light of the gospel of Christ for a full quarter of a century. Hear me,
then, while I present the simple truth regarding it. My argument shall not
be metaphysical nor speculative, but based on facts that may be known and
read of all concerned. Facts are stubborn things, and can not mislead.
1. It is a fact that very many who now profess to be
Christians, and give clear evidence of piety, were, as they aver,
sincerely seeking religion, or the evidence of their acceptance with God,
for days, or weeks, or months, or sometimes even years.
2. It is also a fact that although they had the
teachings and prayers of the most orthodox and evangelical ministers,
still it was long before they found peace, or, as the phrase used to be,
"got through," or "got religion."
3. It is also a fact that these persons. even after
they obtained comfort, were often thrown into doubt, whether they were not
deluded.
4. It is a most palpable fact that orthodoxy encourages
the idea, and acts upon it, that penitents are to expect some mystical
impulse, or touch of the Spirit, to give them evidence of their pardon. If
not, why call them to the "altar," or to the
"anxious-seat," and talk to them, and pray to God to speak peace
to their souls-to send down power, converting power to baptize them with
the Holy Spirit and fire, etc., if they do not believe that, in some
mystic, inexplicable way, God will give them the evidence of pardon? Dr.
Gill, in his "Body of Divinity," on the word "pardon,"
says: "The Spirit pronounces the sentence of it in the
conscience." And hence, we repeat, all this revival machinery is put
into requisition to move Jehovah to send his Spirit to speak the sentence
of pardon in the conscience of true penitents. What a burlesque upon the
wisdom and benevolence of God!
5. It is also a fact that as one false position
requires others, so the false positions already stated have given rise to
a phraseology, a style of speaking on the subject of our acceptance with
God, wholly different from that of the New Testament. The most pious and
sober-minded of the sects speak of their "hope;" they hope that
God, for Christ's sake, has forgiven their sins. The celebrated, very
learned, talented and pious Dr. Macknight thought, as he says, " We
shall never know we are pardoned till the last judgment." The very
orthodox and pious John Newton thus sings doubt
"'Tis a point I long to know;
Oft it causes anxious thought:
Do I love the Lord or no?
Am I his, or am I not?"
These five facts show us, with sufficient clearness,
the difficulties into which the most approved teachings of the most
evangelical sects involves penitents and Christians in regard to the means
and evidences of pardon. My third and fifth facts show that orthodoxy
leaves the most pious in anxious doubt and uncertainty, and has given rise
to the language of dubiety and doubt. I now affirm and will proceed to
show—
1. That the Christian style of speaking on this subject
is wholly different-is the language of strong„ satisfying faith-of moral
certainty. The Christians addressed by Paul are said to be "made free
from sin," to be "justified freely by his grace," to be
"saved," to have "redemption in the blood of Christ, even
the forgiveness of their sins." Addressing his son Titus, Paul says,
"Who hath saved us." Of the Ephesians he says, "By grace
are ye saved." Writing to his son Timothy, he says, "Who hath
saved us." The Christians in the "dispersion," addressed by
Peter, had received "the end of their faith, the salvation of their
souls." In his second letter, having urged them to give all diligence
and to add to their faith courage, knowledge and all the graces that adorn
and perfect the Christian character, he says most emphatically, by way of
warning, "But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see
afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins."
How could they have forgotten they had been purged from their old sins, if
they had never known it?
It is a fact, then, as clear as a sunbeam, from these
and almost numberless other portions of Scripture regarding the style of
the first Christians, that they were pardoned, and knew it, and rejoiced
in it with joy unspeakable, and therefore never spoke in the language of
doubt or fear upon the subject. But this fact is directly in the teeth of
our facts three and five, and demonstrate most clearly that the most pious
of the orthodox parties of our times do not understand and receive the
truth in regard to this question as the first Christians did. For
certainly the same truths, under the same circumstances, would produce the
same effects. They could not produce the full assurance of faith in the
one case, and the most distressing doubts in the other-never, certainly
never!
It is also shown by a reference to my first and fourth
orthodox facts, that penitents are instructed and thus induced to expect
some mystic touch of the Holy Spirit to give them a sense of pardon,
through their agonizings, and wrestlings, and the prayers of the preachers
and the good people, else they would never engage in such a course. Now,
then, I aver as my second Scripture fact that, under the reign of Christ
and the administration of the holy apostles, from the day of Pentecost, it
was not so. Did Peter, on the day of Pentecost, when the "church of
Christ was formed and settled," as Dr. Clarke says, invite the three
thousand penitents, who were pierced to the heart, to come forward, and
they (the apostles) would instruct them and pray for them, and that the
Lord in his own good time and way would send down his Spirit and convert
them and give them an evidence of pardon, anal that then they would
baptize them and take them into the church? Not a word of it! Did any one
of the apostles, or evangelists of the New Reign, ever do it?
Never-unequivocally never!
Let those who doubt it read the Acts of the
Apostles-the Book of Conversions. As, then, the penitents under apostolic
teaching were not directed to seek pardon, as the most pious and godly of
the orthodox churches teach penitents among them to seek it, is it not
perfectly clear that they do not understand and teach the great elementary
principles of the gospel as the apostles did? Certainly they do not.
My first and second facts (which for brevity's sake I
call orthodox) show that under the most approved evangelical teaching,
with all the aids of such teaching and the prayers of such teachers, many
sincere penitents go mourning and disconsolate for days, sometimes weeks,
months, and even years, before they obtain relief. or "get
through," or "get religion," as the phrase is.
Now I am bold to say in the presence and in the fear of
God and for his glory, that these evangelical, orthodox facts," are
directly in the teeth of one of the plainest and most important practical
gospel facts. Evangelical orthodoxy, with all its learning, and eloquence,
and piety, and mighty influence, keeps its most sincere and contrite
souls, who are "most anxious to be Christians," struggling for
days, weeks, months or years before they are relieved.
3. Apostolic orthodoxy gave immediate relief to every
sincere penitent, without a solitary exception. Look at the proof. The
three thousand, on the day of Pentecost, who were pierced to the heart,
said, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" Peter, the man with
the keys, said, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the
name of Jesus the Christ, for the remission of sins. Then they that gladly
received the word were baptized, and the same day were added unto them
about three thousand souls." Not one sincere seeker left ! All that
sought the way of life found it! Look at the case of the Samaritans :
"Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Jesus
unto them, and when the people believed Philip preaching the things
concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus, they were baptized,
both men and women. And there was great joy in that city." None left
to mourn, who desired to be saved, and upon Heaven's terms.
So of the Ethiopian eunuch, the treasurer of Queen
Candace. He was a proselyte to the Jews' religion, and was returning from
Jerusalem, where he had been to worship, when Philip met him. Anxious to
be instructed in the true religion, he desired Philip to take a seat with
him in his chariot. He was reading the 53rd chapter of Isaiah, where it
speaks of the humiliation and death of the Messiah. With great emotion and
emphasis he says to Philip : " I pray thee, of whom speaketh the
prophet this? Of himself, or of some other man? Philip opened his mouth
and began at the same Scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they
went on their way [Philip, in the meantime, no doubt, expounding to him
the way of salvation through Christ, showing him how he died for our sins,
was buried, rose again for our justification, how, after his resurrection,
he commissioned his apostles to go into all the world and preach the
gospel to every creature, Gentile as well as Jew, and to say to every one,
without distinction, "He that believeth the gospel and is
baptized," by way of indicating a death to sin and a putting off of
the body of the sins of the flesh, and a resurrection from sin to a new
life, shall be saved], the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth
hinder me to be baptized?" "Nothing," said Philip, "if
your mind and heart are right. If thou believest with all thy heart thou
mayest be baptized. And he said, from his heart, " I believe that
Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand
still. And they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch,
and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the
Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more,
and he [the saved eunuch] went on his way rejoicing." No trouble here
to find the way. Philip made it plain. The eunuch, with all his heart and
entire person, entered into it and went on his way rejoicing in the pardon
of his sins.
So the Philippian jailer, when he witnessed the
overwhelming evidences that Paul and Silas, whom they had treated so
rudely, were true men and that their God had interposed in their behalf,
he called for a light and sprang in, and came trembling and fell down
before them, and brought them out, and said, "Sirs, what must I do to
be saved? " Being a pagan, they tell him, first of all, that he must
renounce his paganism, his idols, and believe on the Lord Jesus, who had
come from the bosom of the Father to reveal to man the way of life; that
" there is no name under heaven, given among men, by which we must be
saved" but the name of Jesus. And that he might understandingly
embrace the Lord Jesus and rejoice in his salvation, "they spake unto
him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he [the
jailer] took them, the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes
and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. And when he had brought
them into his house, he set meat before them and rejoiced, believing in
God with all his house." All is plain and simple here.
So in the case of the Corinthians: "Hearing, they
believed and were baptized." So Saul of Tarsus. Ananias is sent to
him, after his vision, and says: "Brother Saul, receive thy sight.
And the same hour I looked upon him. And he he said, The God of our
fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that
just one, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. For thou shalt be a
witness unto all men, of what thou hast seen and heard. And now, why
tarriest thou ? Arise and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on
the name of the Lord. And he arose and was baptized, and straightway he
preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God." We
reaffirm, then, that while the history of conversions, under the
administration of orthodoxy, shows that the most sincere and earnest
seekers are often, with all the helps orthodoxy can afford them, days,
weeks, months, and sometimes years, obtaining what they seek, according to
their own showing, the Acts of Apostles does not report a single instance
of one who desired to be delivered from sin, and had an apostolic teacher
to instruct him, that was not forthwith a Christian. Is it not perfectly
clear, then, that orthodoxy, so-called, does not present the gospel to
penitents as the apostles did? For, most certainly, if the gospel
presented to true penitents in the days of the apostles at once afforded
relief, the same gospel now, presented in the same way to persons in the
same condition, will produce the same results. Will our pious orthodox
friends look calmly at these facts, and learn the way of the Lord more
perfectly? Lord, hasten the time when thy people shall know the truth and
be more perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same
judgment.
6. I have said I united with the "Christian
Church" in 1818. I took this step, as a mere youth, because I thought
Stone and his compeers occupied the true ground. All my young associates
joined the Baptist Church, while I, solitary and alone, against the
remonstrances of all my associates and all the sects, who spoke of Stone
and his positions in terms of the strongest reprobation, united with that
"sect everywhere spoken against."
7. True, at the time I united with the Christian
Church, I was not very competent to judge of the correctness of its
positions; yet, after the lapse of a little more than forty years, I
rejoice today [1859] I took that stand. Although I think I have learned
much since that time, I rejoice to believe all my progress in the right
direction has been facilitated by my position regarding the Bible as the
"only infallible"-nay, as the only rule of faith and practice.
But to return from this lengthy digression to the thread of the narrative.
8. As soon as I joined the church I became greatly
concerned about the salvation of the world, and especially my young
associates. Happy in a Savior's love, happy in the glorious hope of
eternal life, I wished all to participate in the same bliss. And perfectly
satisfied as I was that "it is a faithful saying and worthy of all
acceptation that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, even
the chief of sinners," I was anxious to publish this faithful saying
to my young associates, and all sinners, in the hope they would accept it
and be happy. But how should I, indentured as I was for nearly three years
to come, so young, so ignorant, so poor, and every way so unprepared,
attempt so great a work as that of proclaiming the gospel to sinners? But
my heart was in the great work and the providence of God opened my way. My
brother Samuel, who was my guardian, sold my little patrimony of land for
$200 and bought my time from the Messrs. Batterton for $150. I gathered up
my clothing, such as apprentices usually had, took my leave of the family
in which I had lived for near three years, and in which I had been treated
kindly, and went with my brother Samuel to the house of our
brother-in-law, John McIntyre. Here our mother lived, and here, on Brushy
Fork, near the old Baptist meeting-house where, in my boyhood, Elders John
Barnett and Thomas Ammons preached, we stayed all night. Here, before I
proceed, I feel like lingering among the the scenes of my youth, in the
far-off, shadowy past, along the banks of the Brushy Fork, from its
junction with the South Fork of the same name, near the residences of my
uncle, Robert McIntyre, and Robert Elliott, and William Victor, and up the
North Fork by Samuel Rule's-, Spencer Robbin's mill, up by our residence
to the old Baptist meeting-house, the hall of which I believe is still
standing, though it has been occupied but little for a quarter of a
century. We settled upon the North Fork of the Brushy Fork in 1810, and
from that time till I was apprenticed in Millersburg in 1816, the
territory I have described was the principal scene of my labors, my
follies and sports, and the families named my principal acquaintances and
associates. Almost a half century has elapsed since my father settled on
Brushy Fork, and now, at this writing [1859], not one of all these
families just referred to can be found in Kentucky, save that of William
Victor. The heads of all these families have gone to their long homes,
save Mrs. Wm. Victor, who still lives upon the same farm, and I believe in
the same house in which she lived near' fifty years ago. The farms of the
other families have passed into other hands, and their descendants are
scattered in other lands. Thus passes the world away. Here upon our little
farm I used to labor through the week, and spend my Sundays, sometimes at
home, sometimes among the boys of the neighborhood; in the winter, often
on the ice; in the summer, often in the creek, or fishing along its banks.
In the old house alluded to, I used, occasionally, to attend the Baptist
meeting, but a few hundred yards from our residents, not to hear the
preaching, for this had no attractions for me, but to play with some
favorite associates in the woods till the preaching was over. There was
then an attraction, which often brought me from my play and riveted my
attention till it ceased. It was the singing, and especially the singing
of a certain song, in a certain tune, by a certain female, who was a
member of the Baptist Church, then meeting at that old house.
There is nothing, of all that has occurred in the far
distant past, that this day more vividly impresses my mind than these
incidents of almost half a century ago. I see, as if it were yesterday,
that neat, well-looking matron, of middle age, fair complexion, round
face, ruddy cheeks, with soft blue eyes and sweet countenance, rather
below ordinary height, and a little more than ordinarily heavy, as she
stood up in the congregation, in her purest white, and sang with tones as
"sweet as angels use," that beautiful old hymn, that will never
wear out, whose first verse runs thus
"There is a land of pleasure,
Where peace and joy forever roll;
'Tis there I 'have my treasure,
And there I long to rest my soul.
Long darkness dwelt around me,
With scarcely once a cheering ray;
But since my Savior found me,
A lamp has shone along my way."
But how shall I describe her voice and the effect of
her singing? It was shrill, and strong, and peculiarly feminine ; it was
heard above all the voices of that congregation and, after a lapse of near
fifty years, I seem to hear it, peculiarly sweet and beautiful, as it
reverberated from the walls of that old house, with all the freshness of
yesterday. I learned the tune she sang to that good song, and have loved
it and sung it ever since. But where, 0 where are the voices of that
far-off congregation I heard in my youth? And echo asks, Where? Perhaps
nineteen twentieths of them are still in death ! But where, especially, is
Mrs. Cheney, whose singing so entranced me, who once lived near"
Irvin's Spring," and near what, in those days was called "Tull's
Meeting-house," and on the place now occupied by Laban Johnson, Jr.?
Where is her family? If any of her descendants should ever see these
lines, it may call up interesting reminiscences.
CHAPTER II.
Journey to Ohio-First Efforts at Public Speaking-Worked at Trade with D.
Radcliffe some Months-In the Meantime Attended all the Meetings I Could,
and Prayed and Exhorted as Opportunity Offered-First Tour, Embracing Two
or Three Months, Performed on Foot-Became Acquainted with the Doolies,
Worley, Kyle, Shidler-Returned in August to Wilmington and Worked for a
Saddle and Bridle and got me a Horse-Attended a Camp Meeting near Richmond,
Ind.-Met I. P. Durbin on his First Circuit-Attended Conference in
September in Warren County, and was Licensed to Preach-License-Met John
Hardy at Conference and Other Preachers-Incidents of the Meeting and
Subsequent Items.
1. Late in the winter, or very early in the spring of 1819, `we spent the
night as alluded to in the previous chapter, and next morning set out, my
brother Samuel and I, for his residence in Clinton county, Ohio, some four
miles from Wilmington. My old mother gave me her blessing and lent me her
horse, and we started on our journey. That night my brother Samuel had an
appointment at Kentontown, I think, at the house of the father-in-law of
Elder John Powel, who was then just beginning to preach, and who is now
dead. There, for the first time in my life, a mere boy, a little over
eighteen, I attempted publicly to speak a word in behalf of Christianity.
I only distinctly remember that I was very much embarrassed. The next
night he had an appointment near Minerva, in Mason county, and again I
made another attempt, feeble, of course. After this he had no appointment,
I think, till he got home.
2. I went to Wilmington and engaged to work as a
journeyman with Mr. Daniel Radcliffe, who was carrying on the cabinet
business in the place. I worked for him several months, and in the
meantime attended all the meetings I could, night and day, and exercised
my poor gifts, as opportunity offered, in prayer and exhortation, and
studying the Scriptures. My employer was skeptical-rather deistical-still
he was very much of a gentleman, and a Highly honorable man. And it is a
pleasure to me, after the lapse of forty-two years (for this April, 1861,
forty-two years ago, I was working in his shop), to bear this testimony to
his moral worth. He was also a man of good mind and considerable
information. He took a fancy to me, and treated me more like a brother or
son than a stranger. He called me his preacher. I was very zealous, and
having felt the consolations of Christianity myself, I was anxious all
others should enjoy them, and especially my employer, who was so kind to
me, and for whom I felt so deep an interest. I therefore often tried to
get into a conversation with him, in the hope I might remove his
difficulties. I was then very ignorant and could not have met the common
infidel arguments he could have introduced. Upon one occasion, when I was
pressing him for an argument, he addressed me about in these words:
"John, I don't want to trouble you with my difficulties. I could
introduce arguments you could not answer, but I don't want to do it. I
have no doubt you are happier than I am, and I don't want to interfere
with your happiness." This was honest and kind. I often think of it
and remember my old friend, and deeply regret that he has never become a
Christian, so far as I know. I presume he yet lives in Illinois [1861].
May he yet become a Christian, and die enjoying its hopes and
consolations, and in heaven realize its rewards!
Wilmington at this time (the spring of 1819) was quite
a new place; stumps were abundant in the streets. I remember I made a
"secretary," as it was called, a piece of furniture like a
bureau, with a large drawer above, with small drawers and pigeon-holes
inside for papers. The front part of the large upper drawers was hung in
such a manner it could be let down. This was the first article of the kind
ever made, or perhaps ever seen, in Wilmington. It was made for David
Stratton, a Quaker merchant of that place.
3. After having, by a few months' work, furnished
myself with the necessary clothing, etc., for a campaign, early in the
summer I started with my brother Samuel and others, and spent some two or
three months in traveling and attending meetings, principally in the
counties of Clinton, Fayette, Greene, Champaign, Clark, Warren, Hamilton,
Butler, Preble, Darke, Miami and Montgomery in Ohio, and Wayne county in
Indiana. Indeed, I may say, these counties constituted the principal, if
not the exclusive, field of my labors until late in the fall. But I chose
to divide my labors in Ohio and a small portion of Indiana into two
periods, or towns, the first embracing the summer principally, and the
last the fall of 1819. The first was performed on foot, and I was
dependent on my brethren with whom I traveled to carry my clothing. How I
got along in this regard I have wholly forgotten. I know I had no
carpet-sack. If they were then in use, I had never seen one to my
knowledge. I am sure I owned no saddle-bags. How my clothes were carried,
therefore, on this my first missionary tour, my memory is utterly at
fault. So it was I got along very well, and was very happy and had no
regrets then, nor have I now, that I was not better off. Perhaps I am
better off to-day, after the lapse of more than forty years, in many
respects, than I would be had I been well off then. Prosperity is more
dangerous to progress-true progress-progress in all that elevates and
blesses society here, and prepares for the perfection of bliss hereafter,
than adversity.
4. During this tour I became acquainted with a number
of preachers, among whom the following names come up: The venerable, the
pious, the earnest, the laborious, and self-sacrificing and able Elder
Reuben Dooley. He died in 1822. He had been a preacher for more than
twenty years, and perhaps shortened his days by his excessive labors. He
was a most powerful and successful preacher, and died in the triumphs of
the faith. His talents were of the exhortatory kind. His mind was
pre-eminently practical. His preaching was always exhortatory and
practical. He had no taste for human theories in Christianity. No patience
with cold-hearted speculatists, who showed more interest in their
unprofitable speculations than they did in "judgment, mercy and the
love of God." He loved warm-hearted, whole-souled, practical
Christians. He could not, therefore, be induced to turn aside from his
great work of turning men from darkness to light-from the power of Satan
to God-to discuss questions which gender strife and eat out the heart of
piety. As an evidence of his feelings in this direction and of the
practical characters of his mind, we relate the following anecdote : After
preaching, one day, with great fervency and power, as was his wont, and
while his thoughts and his heart were full of the great themes of the
salvation or eternal damnation of our race, a gentleman present introduced
the subject of the eternal salvation of the brute creation, and by the
pertinacity with which he sought to lead. Bro. Dooley into a controversy
on the subject, greatly annoyed him. He saw at a glance there could be no
utility in such a controversy, and therefore in a very decided tone put an
end to it after this fashion. Said he : "If you can convince that cat
which lies before us that it will be made immortal, you may do it a signal
service ; but for myself I have no interest in the question whatever, and
riot the slightest disposition to agitate it." Thus should all such
questions be treated.
I also became acquainted with Moses and Thomas Dooley,
one the father and the other the brother of Reuben. They were exhorters,
but not regular preachers, though they traveled considerably. Moses Dooley
died a short time before his son Reuben. Thomas Dooley I remember as one
of the sweetest singers of Israel I ever heard. He had a clear, soft,
sweet and most melodious voice. I shall never forget, while memory lives,
the deep impression his singing made upon me; there was so much of heaven
and complacency in his eye and beaming forth from his countenance. He
threw his whole soul into his song. While I write of him, he stands before
me in imagination, as he did in reality some forty-two years ago, the
embodiment of Christian meekness, gentleness, patience, hope and love. I
seem to be looking upon that beautiful, peculiarly soft, placid,
heavenly-beaming countenance, as it shone upon me while he sang-as only he
could sing-that most beautiful lyric of Dr. Watts', entitled, "Happy
Frailty." I remember the tune yet, and many of the words. The
first verse runs thus:
"How meanly dwells the immortal mind,
How vile these bodies are !
Why was a clod of earth designed
To inclose a heavenly star ?
Weak cottage where our souls reside,
Earth but a tottering wall !
With fearful breaches gaping wide,
The building bends to fall."
The whole song is in Dr. Watts' best style, full of
pathos, of the most soul-stirring thoughts. And although it is more than
forty years since I heard it sung, yet sung then to the beautiful tune in
the inimitable style of Bro. Thomas Dooley, the impression seems as fresh
and vivid as if it were yesterday. I was captivated, charmed, entranced.
The Dooleys lived in Preble county, Ohio, not far from Eaton. I spent some
little time in their neighborhood, exercising my gifts as opportunity
offered. During this trip I also became acquainted with Elder Nathan
Worley, who lived near Dayton. I spent some time with him and his very
agreeable family. He was a man of superior native talents, and well read
in the Scriptures. He, as well as Dooley, at an early period in this
century, took his stand with Stone upon the Bible as the only rule of
faith and manners. He was a real Boanerges - a man of fine gifts as a
speaker and excellent Christian character. He died in 1847. He continued
in connection with that portion of the Christian Church which did not go
into the Union in 1832, when the friends of Stone and Campbell in Kentucky
and elsewhere formed a Union which has never been severed, and I hope
never will be, and which has accomplished an amount of good which cannot
be computed. The importance of that Union has never been appreciated, and
perhaps cannot be yet. It will be hereafter, when we who were the actors
in it shall have passed away. It was and is such a Union as the world
never witnessed before, nor since. It stands alone in the history of the
church. Nathan Worley treated me like a father, and I can never forget his
kindness and that of his family. He took me by the hand and encouraged me.
I was naturally very timid and always lacked confidence in myself. Was
very much given to despondency and to fear that I never could be a
preacher capable of accomplishing anything. I therefore needed
encouragement, and found it in the pioneers of those times.
On this trip, too, I formed the acquaintance of the
good, the gentle, the amiable, excellent and sensible Elder Samuel Kyle,
of Miami county, Ohio. I stayed in his neighborhood and made his house my
home a short time. I shall never forget his kindness and encouragements.
He died in 1836. Though a good man, be never went into the Union of which
I have spoken. I traveled considerably with Brethren Worley and Kyle, and
would speak and pray as I was encouraged and found opportunity. In the
meantime I formed the acquaintance of a young brother, Watson Clarke, who
was a few years older than I, and had been preaching a short time upon a
sort of a circuit. I traveled with him some time, but I cannot say whether
it was upon my first or second tour. I think it was upon my fall tour, as
I think we went together to conference in September, 1819.
5. As I kept no journal of my travels this year, I am
liable to slight mistakes as to the chronological order of events. But
this is of little importance.
After spending some months in traveling on foot, some
friends proposed helping me buy a horse. They raised some fifteen or
sixteen dollars, and with fifty dollars I had still coming to me in
Kentucky from my father's estate, I made an arrangement to buy a horse.
But I had no saddle. I therefore resolved to return to Wilmington on foot
and work for my former employer and get me a saddle and bridle. I cannot
recollect definitely from what point I started, but I remember distinctly
it took me at least two days to make the trip. I can never forget an
incident on that trip. The first night brought me to Yellow Springs, the
seat of what is now "Antioch College," of which Horace Mann was
the first president. There was a tavern at the Springs at that time, but
who kept it I have forgotten. I stayed all night at that tavern. This was
in August, 1819. I was then in my nineteenth year. I was used to praying
before I went to bed, and young and bashful as I was I asked the privilege
of reading the Bible and praying with the family. It was granted, and I
read a chapter and prayed and retired to bed. Next morning I resumed my
journey to Wilmington. My old employer gave me work and I soon had a
saddle and bridle and horse. An old brother near Lebanon gave me an old
pair of saddle-bags that looked like they might have been in the
Revolutionary War. I accepted them gratefully, and felt that I was now
well equipped.
6. During the summer, or early in the fall of this year
(1819), I attended a camp-meeting in the woods on a beautiful bottom on
White Water, not far from Richmond, Wayne county, Ind. Richmond was then
in the woods, having very few houses. The whole country round about was
new and very heavily timbered. I can never forget that meeting. A
considerable number of preachers was present, among whom I distinctly
remember George Shidler, and I think Nathan Worley. The meeting was
continued for several days and nights. The people seemed very unfeeling
and at times behaved very badly. No good impression was visible until
Monday, the last day of the meeting. The carelessness of the people, and
especially the young, took a deep hold upon my heart. On Monday morning,
before, the public services commenced at the stand, I retired into the
woods and poured out my soul in fervent prayer to God in behalf of his
people and for the sinners assembling and assembled there. I returned to
the stand, under the influence of deep concern for sinners. Some one
preached, and the meeting was about to be dismissed. With feelings
unutterable, I arose and spoke a short time with deep emotions and tearful
eyes (for my heart was full to overflowing). The effect was wonderful. The
preacher and the Christians generally were bathed in tears, and sinners
were cut to the heart. I was a beardless boy, not nineteen years old.
Doubtless my youthful appearance and deep feeling combined with what I
said to produce so great an effect. I came down from the stand, and in
harmony with the custom of the times, invited mourners. I never witnessed
such a scene. They crowded around me, bathed in tears, and fell upon their
knees before God in the dust. I presume not less than fifty came forward
and thus prostrated themselves in prayer. I shall never forget the
exhortation Bro. Shidler gave me. He embraced me in his arms, exhorted me
to be humble and faithful, and study the Word of God, and preach Christ
and him crucified. Prayed that I might live long to do good to build up
the cause of Christ in the earth.
He was then in the prime of his manhood-a large and
noble-looking man. He had been a preacher some ten years. He had a fine
person, an excellent voice, and was a good, practical, pathetic and
successful preacher-a man of unblemished character. He died in Preble
county, where he had lived near a quarter of a century, at the age of
fifty-two years, greatly lamented.
An anecdote is told of Bro. Shidler, which ought to be
preserved because of the excellent moral it teaches. He was a very modest
man-had very humble conceptions of his own abilities. His education was
poor, and when in 1810 he was set apart to the work of the ministry he
felt that he was very poorly furnished for so great an undertaking. He
was, however, able to teach his neighbors, and was being very successful
in building up the cause. Connected with the Christian Church of that time
was Elder William Kincade. He entered with great spirit and ability into
the Reformatory movement in the beginning of this century with Stone and
his compeers. He was a self-made man, of fine native talents, considerable
learning, and mighty in the Scriptures-a living, walking concordance, and
withal somewhat eccentric. About the time Bro. Shidler commenced
preaching, Bro. Kincade preached in his neighborhood. Everybody went to
hear the great man-Bro. Shidler among the rest. He had never heard such
preaching. It seemed to him he knew the Bible by heart-he knew everything
and he himself knew nothing. He went home, measuring himself by Kincade,
and therefore overwhelmed with a sense of his ignorance and utter
unfitness for the work of preaching. He said to himself, "If I could
preach like Kincade, I might preach; but ignorant as I am I had better
quit it." For near a week he was miserable, under the temptation to
quit the ministry, because he could riot preach like Kincade. He mourned,
and wept, and prayed before the Lord, and at last was delivered from his
trouble thus. Said he "Every man can't be a great preacher-every man
can't preach like Kincade-some preacher in the world must be the least of
all the preachers, and if it pleases God that George Shidler should be the
man, be it so. God helping me, therefore, I will try to occupy my one
talent till the Master comes." From this time forward he was happy in
doing what he could in the vineyard of the Lord.
What became of the penitents we left weeping on the
banks of White Waters ? The great mass of them, doubtless, are in their
graves. How many have been saved of those who near forty-two years ago
were then inquiring, "What must we do?" How many of them yet
live, and where are they, and what are they doing? We ask these questions
with interest, but no human being can answer them. Had we been able to say
to those penitents who inquired, "What must we do?" in the
language of Peter, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the
name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins," they might have been
delivered forthwith. But our minds were blinded to the simple truth on
that subject, and God requires of us according to what we have and not
according to what we have not. It is to be feared, however, that in these
days many shut their eyes to the truth. To do this is to take a terrible
responsibility. To tamper with our convictions, our consciences, is the
high road to strong and damning delusions. But thank God we are not the
judges in such cases. The Lord God Omnipotent reigneth, and the Judge of
all the earth will do right.
7. In the summer, or most likely in the fall of this
year, not far from Richmond, Wayne county, Ind., I met plain John P.
Durbin, I think upon his first circuit, a mere boy like myself. I presume
he was not much if any more than nineteen years old at that time [1819]. I
attended - his meeting and heard him preach. I don't know that I have
heard him since. We were fellow craftsmen. Both of us served a time to the
cabinet business in Bourbon county, Ky., he with William Scott, of Paris,
and I with the Messrs. Batterton, in Millersburg. He was then as poorly
educated, perhaps, as myself. We dined together, and He showed me an
English grammar he was carrying in his pocket and studying. He was a very
aspiring youth. He spoke in raptures of the great lights of Methodism,
especially of Dr. A. Clarke, and seemed to have him before his mind as a
model. He spoke of the great number of languages, and the great amount of
learning he had acquired by his own industry, and seemed resolved to
imitate his example. The Methodists, seeing he had talents and was anxious
to cultivate them, gave him facilities for acquiring learning, which he
has very successfully improved. He is now a D. D., and stands up among the
very first men in that denomination as a writer, an orator and a literary
man. I have not seen him for more than thirty years.
8. In the meantime, the conference of the Christian
Church for that part of Ohio came on in Warren county, in the neighborhood
of Elder Isaac Death's. It was held in the close of September of that
year. The strong men of the Connection were there. The following names I
remember: Elders David Purviance, David
Wallace, John Hardy, Richard Simonton, Samuel Kyle, Isaac Death, and many
others whose names I do not remember. The meeting was held chiefly at a
stand in the woods. A rude stand was made, some three or four feet high,
with a puncheon or slab floor, some ten feet long and five or six feet
wide, with a board in front on which to put a book, and behind which the
preacher stood. It was covered with a thick layer of green brush. There
were three or four rows of seats, with two or more aisles between them
leading down towards the stand. For lights we had scaffolds erected all
round the seats-some half dozen of them. They were set up on forks, some
five feet high and as many square with a bottom of timber thoroughly
covered with dirt. Fires were then built in the middle of these scaffolds
of dry wood, and thus a good light was afforded to the whole congregation.
The stand was furnished with candles. I highly enjoyed the meeting. It was
a great pleasure to me to hear the other men, and leaders in the worship,
sing and pray, and preach the Word, and also to sit at their feet in the
private circle and hear them converse about the things of God-the
interests of the cause in which we were engaged. On Sunday night Bro.
Watson Clarke and I were appointed to deliver our trial speeches before
the conference and the large audience present. Bro. Clarke was to be the
preacher and I the exhorter. It was a great trial to me to speak upon any
occasion, but doubly so to speak before such an assembly of preachers,
several of them men of age, ability and learning. Bro. Clarke preached
without, as I thought, much embarrassment. I sat behind him trembling with
fear. He closed, and with my heart fluttering with agitation I arose and
commenced my exhortation. Very few present had ever heard me. I have no
recollection of what I said, as I had nothing specially prepared. I was
young, beardless, ignorant, but my heart was full of the great theme of
redemption. So it was, I had not spoken long till the whole camp was
ablaze of feeling. The first thing I knew David Purviance and David
Wallace were dancing behind me in the stand, shouting at the top of their
voices. And in a few minutes the entire area before the stand was filled
with men and women dancing and shouting. The result was I was silenced and
gave place to the preachers and people to carry on the meeting as seemed
good to them. I had not attempted to preach, but I received license at
that conference to exercise my talents in "such way as God may
direct." Does any say, "This was all very disgusting and there
could have been no piety there?" This is very hasty and ill judged.
The times and views of the people then were very different from what they
are now. We have more light on some important practical subjects than they
had, but I doubt if we have as much piety or spirituality. If they were
upon the extreme of enthusiasm, we are. on the extreme of cold formality.
Below you have a copy of my original license to exercise my talents as a
preacher or exhorter:
"WARREN CO., OHIO, SEPT. 28, 1819.
"The Conference of the Christian Church to all whom it may concern :
This is to certify that our beloved brother, John Rogers, the bearer of
this, has been legally encouraged to exercise his talents in publicly
administering the Word in such way as God may direct. We therefore
recommend him to all where God in his providence may cast his lot, and
commend him to God and the Word of his grace.
"Signed by order of the Conference by
" SAMUEL KYLE, Clerk."
9. At this conference I made the acquaintance of Elder John Hardy, and
went with him from the conference to a meeting to be held, embracing the
first Lord's day of October, 1819, at Burlington, in Hamilton county,
Ohio. He was the regular preacher at that point, and as he died on the
25th of October, it is most likely this was the last meeting he ever
attended. The meeting at Burlington was protracted for several days, and
was a very interesting one. I was with him some ten or twelve days at the
two meetings. I never saw him after we parted. I heard him preach several
times at the conference and at the Burlington meeting. He was in the prime
of his manhood, not quite forty years old. He was a man of very superior
natural gifts, and, considering his opportunities, had made great
improvement. He had a fine personal appearance, an excellent voice, a
logical mind and smooth, engaging manners in and out of the pulpit. I was
greatly pleased with him, and think he was one of the best and most
promising preachers among us at that time. But he died a few weeks after
we parted, of fever, greatly lamented and greatly missed by the church he
served so faithfully and acceptably. From this meeting at Burlington, I
think I went to Preble county. I may have gone with Bro. Hardy, as
he-lived and died near Eaton. I spent some time with Father David
Purviance, who lived on White Water, in Preble county. I attended several
meetings with him, and was greatly pleased and edified with his
conversation. He purposed during the fall to visit Kentucky and see his
old friends. I resolved to accompany him, and if possible spend the winter
of 1819 and 1820 at the school Father Stone was teaching in Georgetown,
Ky.
CHAPTER III.
Tour to Kentucky in the Fall of 1819-Spent the Winter and Early Spring
Going to School to B. W. Stone in Georgetown, Ky.-Was Ordained in April,
1820, at Minerva-Located in the Spring of 1820 near Carlisle, and
Labored for near, Two Years in this Region-Tour with B. W. Stone to the
Southern Part of Kentucky
-Sermon at Columbia-Became Acquainted with Elder John Mulkey.
1. About the first of November, or late in October, in
company with Father D. Purviance, I started for Kentucky. He had quite a
string of appointments, which he had sent before him, reaching into
Kentucky, and stretching through a considerable period-a month or more.
David Purviance at that time was the oldest of the
early preachers of the incipient reformatory movement in which they were
engaged, and next to Stone, among the most talented, influential and
learned of the Connection. He was a man of sterling integrity, and though
unassuming, he was fixed in his principles and independent in their
avowal, when duty required it. He was, a very active member of the
Legislature of Kentucky, and very influential for some six years-from 1797
to 1803. About that time he devoted himself to preaching, and made that
his chief business till his death in 1847, in his 81st year. From 1792
till 1807, he lived in Bourbon county, Ky., and from 1807 till he died, he
lived in Preble county, Ohio. He was a good man, and true in all the
relations of life. He never entered the Union of which we have spoken,
though he was always friendly with us. But to return to our narrative.
2. We took Cincinnati in our route. It was then a small
place, containing not more than six or eight thousand inhabitants. Dr. J.
L. Wilson then occupied what was called the two-horned church, and almost
the entire square around it was open and unoccupied. I think we also held
a. meeting at Burlington, some twelve miles from Cincinnati, in the
Carnahan neighborhood. We made some stay in Brown county, Ohio, at
Liberty, a stone meeting house on Eagle Creek. Here we had a meeting of
some days. Elder John Longly was then living in Decatur, some two miles
off. He was then preaching for the congregation. He is still living in
Lafayette, Ind., at a very advanced age, arid still able to preach [1861].
He entered most heartily into "the Union," and has been true to
it to this hour. His has been a thorny road through life. I have known him
more than forty years and have no doubt he is a good man. He was never a
financier, and therefore in early life sometimes involved himself and his
friends in pecuniary difficulties. He is now poor. The Lord cheer the
evenings of his days with the light of his countenance ! He was originally
a Baptist preacher, but very early in this century took his stand with
Stone and his followers upon the Bible -and nothing but the Bible- as
authoritative in religion. He has been a good and very successful
preacher. An incident occurred at this meeting which I have never
forgotten. A brother, I presume he was, gave me a piece of money; and then
it was done in such a way ! He came blustering up to me to the pulpit, and
calling for a light pulled out his purse, and after some time handed me a
cut nine pence, or quarter, I am not sure which. It was the first money I
ever remember to have received for preaching. It greatly alarmed me, and
the impression yet remains. I have never been seriously alarmed in that
direction since and am not likely to be. I have, however, thank the Lord,
no complaints to make, as I have got along very well.
3. From Liberty we went up the river, and after holding
two or three meetings on the way, crossed the Ohio at Manchester and had a
meeting at a Bro. Geo. Wilson's, in what is now known as "Wilson's
Bottom." We had meetings at Cabin Creek, Flemingsburg, Brick Union
and at old Bro. Trimble's, in Fleming county, on Fleming Creek. From old
Father Trimble's we made our way to Carlisle, my present residence, and
held a meeting in the old court-house Lord's day and Lord's day night.
Carlisle was then a new place, only a few years old. This was in the fall
of 1816, more than forty-two years ago. Here, in the old court-house which
occupied the site of the new one, on Lord's day I preached my first sermon
in Carlisle, on these words: They that be whole need not a physician, but
they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to
repentance."
4. From Carlisle I went to Georgetown, and was soon
boarding at Andrew Robison's and going to school to Father Stone. Bro.
Robison was kind enough to give me my board, and Bro. Stone gave me my
tuition. Bro. Robison had a son James who had commenced preaching. I spent
the winter and early spring in studying the English grammar and other
kindred studies. In the meantime, I attended all the meetings in reach and
thus improved my talents as best I could. Here I became acquainted with
several young preachers and exhorters near my own age, whom Bro. Stone had
been instrumental in bringing into the Church, educating more or less, and
disposing them to enter the evangelical field. Their names were James
Robison, James Hicklin, Hamilton Gray, Harrison Osborne and Marcus P.
Wills. James Robison and Hicklin were the two oldest of the five. There
was not more than two or three years' difference in our ages. Wills and I
were perhaps the youngest. During the time of going to school, perhaps
early in the spring of 1820, I accompanied Bro. Stone to a meeting on Cane
Ridge. On that occasion I remember he preached at Judge Henderson's, who
lived in the stone house not far from Cane Ridge, where Robert Bowler
lived, subsequently, many years. There I think I made my first exhortation
on Cane Ridge. I had a great desire to acquire a good education, but the
harvest was great and the laborers were comparatively few. The Macedonian
cry was heard from many quarters, and burning with zeal to be useful as a
preacher, I was pushed into the field.
5. The conference of the Christian Churches for the
North of Kentucky met at Minerva, Mason county, early in April, and held a
meeting of some four or five days. The Baptists were kind enough to allow
us to occupy their house. It was a very happy meeting. The congregations
were very large and attentive. The preachers present, I remember, were B.
W. Stone' Archibald Alexander, Matthew Gardner, and I think John Morrow
and his son William, besides several candidates for ordination and
licensure. The five following were ordained at that. meeting, viz.: John
Shawhan, James Robison, Hamilton Gray, Harrison Osborne and myself. Marcus
P. Wills was licensed to preach. James Hicklin would have been ordained,
but he was in very poor health. He died the subsequent fall of
consumption. He was a talented and most excellent young man. Hamilton Gray
was a very well educated and gifted young man, but he died, I think of
consumption, in a few years. John Shawhan was near fifty when ordained. He
lived in Bourbon county, and died there some ten years ago or more at an
advanced age. He was a good man, I think, but never an efficient preacher.
Marcus P. Wills became a very useful preacher. He was a man of very
respectable ability. He moved to Boone county, Mo., where he preached
successfully many years, and died several years ago, much lamented. Three
out of the five ordained at that meeting are living-Robison, Osborne and
myself. Robison is in Illinois, not far from Bloomington, still preaching
quite successfully. Bro. Osborne, some thirty years ago, moved to Morgan
county, Illinois, and has been living there ever since. His family is
raised and all married, and I think well provided for. He has got along in
the world remarkably well, though never well sustained as a preacher.
Indeed, none of the pioneers of this movement were well supported as
preachers.
Bro. Osborne's early opportunities for improvement were
poor. But he was highly gifted as a speaker. He had a superior voice, and
a very pleasant, impressive and dignified manner, withal a remarkable
memory, and was therefore a very popular and successful preacher. When
young, the cares of his family in a new country where our people were few,
in his earlier days there, prevented his devoting himself to the ministry
as he could have wished. Still, he preached a good deal and with some
success. Of late years he has preached considerably and with good success.
Some two or three years ago, his wife, a most excellent woman, died. I
knew her at least forty-two years ago, when she was quite a girl at her
father's, David Castle's.
6. It is proposed to insert here a copy of my
certificate of ordination, written by the venerable Stone. The ceremony
was performed in a very solemn manner by prayer and the laying on of the
hands of the elders or presbyters. The following is an exact copy of the
paper:
"The elders of the Christian Church assembled at
Minerva, April 10, 1820, have unanimously, ordained our brother, John
Rogers, to the ministry of the Gospel, according to the will of God, our
Savior, by the commendation of the Christian Church at Georgetown, in
which he has lived and labored for some time past.
Signed by the order of the Elders.
"BARTON W. STONE, E. C. C."
Note: The initials, E. C. C., mean Elder of the Church of Christ.
7. After the meeting at Minerva, I came into the
neighborhood of Carlisle (which has been my residence, mainly, ever since)
and made my home for sometime at Father Moses Hall's, who then owned the
farm on which James Arnold now lives, and occupied the same house in which
said Arnold now lives [1861], adjoining Carlisle. This was my headquarters
for the remainder of the year 1820, perhaps some longer. I formed, by the
advice of my seniors, a circuit, embracing parts of Bourbon, Nicholas and
Bath counties, perhaps a part of Harrison. The points of my labor were
many. The following were the principal: Carlisle, Old Concord, Little Flat
Creek, in the neighborhood of Ezekiel Hinton's, Big Flat, Prickley Ash, at
Thomas Cartinel's, Elder John Morrow's, on Indian Creek, Leonard Woollen's,
old Bro. Robert Snodgrass', on Beaver, Cane Ridge, Rockbridge and Plumlick.
My field of labor was large, acid I labored incessantly in it day and
night. We had but two or three meeting-houses then in all these bounds. In
most places I preached in private houses, and at stands in the woods in
warm weather, as no private house would hold the people. I greatly regret
that I did not keep an account of my meetings and the results in the early
times. But having no such records, I must depend upon my memory. I shall
never forget my first visit to Little Flat, near Bro. Hinton's, a few
miles from Moorefield. It was late in May, or perhaps early in June, 1820.
We met in the woods on the creek, and I preached to a large audience. I
think at that time we had no stand, but if we had not, we had soon after,
as this was a regular preaching place for a good many years. I was in my
twentieth year, a beardless boy, and though recently ordained had never
before administered the ordinance of baptism. There were eleven persons to
immerse, and some of them quite large, and the water was rather shallow. I
need not say it was quite a trial to one so young and: inexperienced as I.
But I felt it to be my duty and found little difficulty in its
performance. Since that time I have baptized perhaps four or five thousand
persons, many of whom have passed away and I hope are in paradise.
8. I spent the greater part of the present year [1820]
and the subsequent one at the places embracing my circuit as designated
above. It was the custom of the church at Concord, before we had a
meeting-house at Carlisle, to hold two big meetings, as we then called
them, each year, embracing the third Lord's day of May and September,
commencing on Friday and closing about the following Monday or Tuesday.
These were big meetings indeed. Many came from the different counties and
neighborhoods around, on horses, and in wagons and on foot. Many brought
in their wagons provisions and cooking utensils, and even bedding, and
slept in their covered wagons, or in the meeting-house. They did most of
their cooking on the ground. At these meetings they met in the morning for
prayer and singing before breakfast. After breakfast, went to hear
preaching at 10 and 11 A.M., then dispersed for dinner. After dinner, met
at from 2 to 3 A.M., and heard another discourse, followed with singing
and exhortation, and much fervent prayer. The congregation was then
dismissed for supper. Many took their meals upon the ground, and many went
with the dear neighbors and took their meals with them, and returned to
night meeting, when they usually had preaching, exhortation and much
singing and prayer.
9. That there were evils incident to these meetings
must be admitted. When the sons of God anciently met together for divine
worship, Satan was there in his emissaries to do his work. That there were
disorders, and a good deal of wildfire enthusiasm, and even in some
instances fanaticism, among the professors of these times, may be allowed;
still, in very many there existed deep piety, the purest devotion to God
and benevolence to man, illustrated in the most animated and
heart-searching appeals from the pulpit, the most fervent and earnest
prayer for the salvation of sinners, and singing-the most feeling and
soul--stirring-all backed by a life of purity and beneficence, presenting
altogether quite a contrast with the coldness and elegant formalisms of
these times. Those were seasons of refreshing from the presence of the
Lord, and I highly enjoyed them. I loved in those days to sit at the feet
of our good fathers and mothers in Israel, and hear them talk of the
things of the kingdom of God and the Dame of Jesus.
10. Allusion has been made to the death of
James
Hicklin, a promising young preacher. He was buried at Cane Ridge, and a
rude head-stone at his grave says he died September, 1819. I know this to
be wrong, as I was ordained in April, 1820, at Minerva, and he was
present. I know, too, that at our big meeting for September, 1820, at
Concord; the news came that James Hicklin was dead. While I live, and
memory lives, I can never forget this. The stone, therefore, dates his
death one year too soon.
11. Late in the summer, or early in the fall of 1821, I
accompanied B. W. Stone on a tour to the Southern part of Kentucky,
embracing chiefly the counties of Adair, Barren, Monroe, and perhaps some
others. I shall never forget Father Stone's sermon at Columbia, on that
tour. It was preached in the court-house, and was most decidedly
anti-Calvinistic. A Mr. Robinson, a Presbyterian preacher, was there, and
he and Father Stone dined together and had much friendly conversation. I
think Robinson was located at Columbia, and that he is the same who was a
member of the Synod of Kentucky in 1803, from which Stone and his compeers
withdrew. See Biography of Stone, p. 164.
He read, as the basis of his discourse, the Parable of
the Vineyard, as recorded in Isaiah, 5th chapter, first seven verses, but
made the fourth verse his text.
He showed that God in his dealings with his ancient
people, as set forth in this passage of Scripture, as elsewhere, had done
all he could do to make them fruitful in all that would render them
acceptable to him, and that, therefore, with perfect truth he could say,
"What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done
in it," to make it produce the proper fruit? And so clear was the
case in his favor and against the people that he submits the questions to
their own decision, assured of a favorable verdict. "And now,
inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me
and my vineyard." As if he had said, "I challenge you to give
one valid reason why you call evil good, and good evil; why you put
darkness for light, and light for darkness ; why you put bitter for sweet,
and sweet for bitter; why you are mighty to drink wine, and men of
strength to mingle strong drink; why you justify the wicked for reward,
and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him." Like the
man in the gospel without the wedding garment, they were self-condemned,
and therefore could make no defense.
12. He showed that what was true of the children of
Israel is just as true of sinners under the gospel. That the gospel feast
is prepared that all things on the part of God are ready and sinners are
urged to come and partake of the provisions and live. That God has loved
the world and has given the highest possible demonstration of it by giving
up his own Son to die to save it. That the Son has tasted death for every
one. That in all sincerity and truth the Spirit and the Bride say, Come!
Let him that heareth say, Come; let him that is athirst come, and
whosoever will let him take the water of life freely. That the Savior most
sincerely wept over the wicked of Jerusalem, though he knew many of them
would perish forever; but he knew they would perish because they would not
come to him that they might live. He knew that, in the day of judgment,
they would be without excuse and have to acknowledge the justness of their
condemnation. That the Judge could say in truth, "I called and you
refused. I stretched out my hand all the day and no man regarded it."
13. After having thus shown most triumphantly that God
has never under any dispensation given a sinner any excuse, much less a
reason for sinning; that if under the Jewish or Christian dispensation men
were wicked or lost, it was their own fault and they would be dumb and
self-condemned in the judgment of the great day, and God in their eyes
would be just in their condemnation, he took up the Calvinistic theory, in
which he had been thoroughly trained and which he well understood, and
discoursed after this fashion: "But now," said he, "while
it is perfectly clear, according to the Scripture, that sinners will see
and acknowledge the justness of their own condemnation, it could not be so
according to the Calvinistic theory. For, according to that theory, every
one, in the day of judgment, who shall be found on the left hand, will be
found there because from eternity, without any foresight of unbelief or
disobedience, as causes moving him thereto, God did, for the praise of his
glorious justice, decree it should be so. Suppose, then, Jehovah should,
in the last day, challenge the non-elect on the left hand, as he did
ancient Israel, and say, ` What more could I have done to save you that I
have not done? " they might justly have replied to this effect:
"1. `0 Lord, be not offended at us, and we will
speak in our defense:. Thou askest, What more thou couldest have done? 0
Lord, thou couldest have numbered us with the elect, as we were no more
unworthy than those thou . didst elect.'
"2. 'Thou couldest have sent thy Son to die for us
as a sin-offering.'
"3. `Thou couldest have given us faith by the
uncommon operations of the Spirit. But withholding, in thy sovereignty,
these favors, we perish without any fault of ours.'
"4. 'Thou didst require us to believe the gospel
and obey it upon pain of eternal death, and yet, 0 Lord, thou knowest that
from eternity thou didst decree we never should believe it. For, although
thou didst send the gospel to us, and urge us to accept it, and gave us
some common operations of the Spirit, we never could believe and truly
come to Christ. Thou knowest, 0 Lord, it is no fault of ours that we are
not of the elect-no fault of ours that Christ did not die for us, and of
course no fault of ours that we could not believe in him, as the Spirit
works faith only in the elect.'
"Most certainly the Calvinistic theory is utterly,
without support in Scripture or reason. True, it is so modified in these
days in many instances as to have lost its most repulsive features. When
will the world be content with the simple statements of Scripture on all
controverted questions? Lord, hasten the day!"
14. In this town we had many pleasant meetings in the
neighborhood of Bro. John Mulkey. Bro. Mulkey (or I might call him
Father Mulkey) I think was about the age of Bro. Stone. He had been a
popular Baptist preacher, but became satisfied of the correctness of our
ground and united with us, and was extensively useful in promoting the
cause. He subsequently. made a visit or two to this part of Kentucky, and
was with me at Old Concord and Cane Ridge. He was quite an orator. He had
a splendid voice, and sang, and preached, and prayed most admirably. He
died many years before the venerable Stone. He left behind him some sons,
who are still in the evangelical field and doing good service. One or more
of them, I think, is in Illinois.
̶̶̶ From Recollections Of Men Of Faith Containing Conversations With
Pioneers Of The Current Reformation Also Numerous Incidents And Anecdotes
Of These Heroic Heralds Of The Cross
by W.C. Rogers Old Paths Books Club Reprint c.1960 pages 138-186
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